Track Advisory Committee Notes & 2014 Track Standards


#1

While it’s still very early in cross country season, the IHSA Advisory Committee just released their notes from their meeting last Wednesday.

Here are the notes…

And here’s a handy little list I put together:

Changes include:

Class 1A Girls
· 300 hurdles 49.84 –> 49.04 FAT

Class 1A Boys
· Shot put 49-3 –> 48-0
· 4x800 8:24.24 –> 8:26.24 FAT
· 4x100 :44.64 –> :44.54 FAT
· 110 hurdles :15.44 –> :15.54 FAT

Class 2A Girls
· Shot Put 36-6 –> 37-0
· 4x800 10:04.00 –> 9:58.04 FAT
· 3200 11:48.04 –> 11:40.04 FAT
· 100 hurdles :16.04 –> :15.94 FAT
· 400 1:00.64 –> :59.90 FAT
· 1600 5:25.74 –> 5:25.24 FAT

Class 2A Boys

· Pole Vault 13-3 –> 13-6
· Triple Jump 43-8 –> 43-10
· Discus 148-0 –> 149-0
· 110 hurdles :14.94 –> :15.24 FAT

Class 3A Girls
· Long Jump 17-3 –> 17-6
· Pole Vault 10-3 –> 10-6
· Triple Jump 35-6 –> 35-8
· 3200 11:22.04 –> 11:16.04 FAT
· 4x200 1:44.74 –> 1:45.74 FAT
· 1600 5:15.24 –> 5:14.24 FAT

Class 3A Boys

· Discus 155-0 –> 156-6
· 4x800 8:00.04 –> 7:58.04 FAT
· 1600 4:22.74 –> 4:22.04 FAT


#2

As far as 3A Boys are concerned, I have no problem with any changes. I think the mile and 4x8 are the softest qualifying marks at this point because those marks will get you nowhere close to competing once you get to state. And Discus that foot and a half is negligible, but that has been a weaker event lately so I’m worried that it will lower the field at state too much.


#3

Did some useless data analysis regarding the current Boys 3A Standards. I took the average 9th Place “All-State” time/distance/mark for the past 5 years (since 3A has been in existence).

Event-Standard- 5yr. Average
Long Jump - 22’3" - 22’2"
Pole Vault - 13’9" - 14’2"
High Jump - 6’5" - 6’5"
Shot Put - 52’11" - 54’8.5"
Triple Jump - 44’10" - 45’3"
Discus - 156’6" - 158’8.75"
4x800m Relay - 7:58.04 - 7:55.03
4x100m Relay - :42.64 - :43.10
3200m Run - 9:29.04 - 9:21.39
110m High Hurdles - :14.74 - 15.05
100m Dash - :10.94 - 11.09
800m Dash - 1:57.24 - 1:55.70
4x200m Relay - 1:29.64 - 1:29.59
400m Dash - :49.94 - :50.03
300m Int. Hurdles - :39.84 - :40.27
1600m Run - 4:22.04 - 4:17.43
200m Dash - :22.24 - :22.70
4x400m Relay - 3:23.74 - 3:24.96

What does this mean? I’m not sure. Guess that’s up for discussion. I see some standards that I believe are too tough, just right, and too easy. I think if the Standard is harder than the 9th Place “All-State” average, it should be adjusted. Just my thought. I’m all for getting kids down to state. (LJ, 110, 100, 400, 300, 200) The 9th Place team in the 4x4 has had some tough luck that past few years which has brought that Average time up. Lyons dropped baton last year. I did not include PNHS from two years ago with the pulled Hamstring finish. Our team was way back three years ago. I think 3:23.74 is a good standard.


#4

I think that for lane assigned finals, the 9th place finish isn’t representative of what takes place. Maybe a better number to use would be the final qualifying time to finals.

Standard vs. 5 year average for finals qualifying
4x100m Relay - :42.64 - :42.42
110m High Hurdles - :14.74 - :14.73
100m Dash - :10.94 - :11.03
4x200m Relay - 1:29.64 - 1:28.52
400m Dash - :49.94 - :49.57
300m Int. Hurdles - :39.84 - :39.25
200m Dash - :22.24 - :22.14
4x400m Relay - 3:23.74 - 3:20.98

These tell a slightly different story, especially in the relays. Because qualifying to finals is more important than what happens once you’re there, because as Plainfield North taught us, once it’s finals it’s all about just crossing the line.

I do think that judging by this, the 110 hurdles and 200 could probably use a little bump to a higher time. And the 100 may need a bump to about 11.00 or 11.04. Other than that all of the standards seem very fair to me. Because while I appreciate participation, I think that to have earned your spot at the state meet, you should be capable of competing for one of the 9 medals they give out in each race.


#5

I might agree with you there. I don’t have that data though. Maybe soon.


#6

Sorry, before I saw your post I edited mine to add the data. I’ve been keeping track of it for a while now so it was nice to have it handy. Let me know what you think, Coach.


#7

Yeah, those are good to see. I’m with you. That 110 standard is tough! I remember talking to some other Coaches about it at last year’s Sectional. We had great Hurdlers at the Joliet West Sectional that had beaten each other all year long. Good stuff though.


#8

These are because by this time in the final day your 200/400 guys have run pretty hard. It’s hard to come back the next day with a faster time on back to back days because these distances take longer to clear lactate from the legs.


#9

Two of those five years were also speed up the meet years?


#10

The other trouble is the 9th place time in a field of 9 usually represents the worst case scenario in how a race goes.