Pretend you are a distance coach


#1

You are headed to Penn Relays. Here is your schedule:
Schedule:

  • FRI 02:25PM - DMR
  • SAT 12:45PM - 4xMile
  • SAT 04:45PM -4x800

You are Robert Johnson. Below are guys on your current roster and their personal bests. Field distance relay squads that will score the most points. When you finished look at some of the other schools I printed out below:

  • Dunbar is injured
  • Eklaim, Stinson is running at Payton Jordan
  • Johnson on the bench (king99)
  • No-noelle (LR)

800:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 1:45.06  | Greer, Elijah       | NCAA Division I Championships           | 2011-06-08 | 2011-06-08 |
| 1:47.42  | Guyota, Boru        | MPSF Indoor Track and Field Championshi | 2013-02-22 | 2013-02-22 |
| 1:48.70  | Fleet, Mac          | Oregon Pepsi Invitational               | 2013-04-06 | 2013-04-06 |
| 1:49.70  | Hornsby, Russell    | USC Trojan Invitational                 | 2012-03-23 | 2012-03-23 |
| 1:50.64  | Noelle, Chad        | Oregon Twilight                         | 2012-05-05 | 2012-05-05 |
| 1:51.50  | Warren, Trent       | Oregon Relays                           | 2013-04-19 | 2013-04-19 |
| 1:51.85  | Miner, Matt         | Oregon Preview                          | 2013-03-16 | 2013-03-16 |
| 1:52.42  | Watson, Cole        | MPSF Indoor Track & Field Championships | 2011-02-25 | 2011-02-25 |
| 1:53.45  | Todd, Patrick       | Blue and Orange Opener                  | 2013-01-12 | 2013-01-12 |
| 1:54.05  | Morrison, Hank      | Oregon Twilight                         | 2010-05-08 | 2010-05-08 |
| 1:54.07  | Winn, Daniel        | Oregon Pepsi Invitational               | 2011-04-09 | 2011-04-09 |
| 1:54.27  | Johnson, Brett      | Blue and Orange Opener                  | 2013-01-12 | 2013-01-12 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

Mile:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 3:57.70  | Fleet, Mac          | UW Husky Classic                        | 2010-02-12 | 2010-02-12 |
| 3:58.62  | Johnson, Brett      | UW Husky Classic                        | 2013-02-08 | 2013-02-08 |
| 3:59.01  | Miner, Matt         | MPSF Indoor Track and Field Championshi | 2013-02-22 | 2013-02-22 |
| 3:59.18  | Elkaim, Jeramy      | MPSF Indoor Track and Field Championshi | 2013-02-22 | 2013-02-22 |
| 3:59.23c | Todd, Patrick       | Virginia Challenge                      | 2012-05-12 | 2012-05-12 |
| 3:59.57  | Noelle, Chad        | UW Husky Classic                        | 2013-02-08 | 2013-02-08 |
| 4:00.98c | Dunbar, Trevor      | Oregon Relays                           | 2012-04-19 | 2012-04-19 |
| 4:01.44c | Greer, Elijah       | Stanford Invitational                   | 2013-03-29 | 2013-03-29 |
| 4:02.05  | Guyota, Boru        | UW Husky Classic                        | 2013-02-08 | 2013-02-08 |
| 4:03.86c | Alexander, Colby    | Oregon Relays                           | 2013-04-19 | 2013-04-19 |
| 4:04.16c | Brewer, Chris       | Stanford Invitational                   | 2013-03-29 | 2013-03-29 |
| 4:05.18  | Winn, Daniel        | MPSF Indoor Track & Field Championships | 2012-02-24 | 2012-02-24 |
| 4:06.42  | Watson, Cole        | UW Husky Classic                        | 2011-02-11 | 2011-02-11 |
| 4:06.96  | DeJarnette, Ben     | MPSF Indoor Track & Field Championships | 2010-02-26 | 2010-02-26 |
| 4:10.23c | Jablonski, Matt     | Stanford Invitational                   | 2013-03-29 | 2013-03-29 |
| 4:11.82c | Costin, Tim         | John Knight Twilight                    | 2012-04-13 | 2012-04-13 |
| 4:12.36c | Stinson, Parker     | Oregon Preview                          | 2011-03-19 | 2011-03-19 |
| 4:13.38c | Hunt, Mitchell      | Oregon vs. UCLA                         | 2010-04-17 | 2010-04-17 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

School: Penn State
800:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 1:45.31  | Loxsom, Casimir     | NCAA Division I Championships           | 2011-06-08 | 2011-06-08 |
| 1:47.23  | Kidder, Brannon     | 55th Mt. SAC Relays                     | 2013-04-18 | 2013-04-18 |
| 1:48.49  | West, Ricky         | 55th Mt. SAC Relays                     | 2013-04-18 | 2013-04-18 |
| 1:48.64  | Creese, Robby       | Penn State National Invitational        | 2012-01-27 | 2012-01-27 |
| 1:48.92  | Watkins, Za'Von     | Notre Dame Alex Wilson 2013             | 2013-03-01 | 2013-03-01 |
| 1:49.32  | Brennan, Ryan       | 55th Mt. SAC Relays                     | 2013-04-18 | 2013-04-18 |
| 1:53.05  | Corkedale, Tyler    | Penn State Open                         | 2010-05-07 | 2010-05-07 |
| 1:53.98  | Fuller, Mark        | Penn State Northeast Challenge          | 2010-01-16 | 2010-01-16 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

Mile:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 3:57.11  | Creese, Robby       | UW Husky Classic                        | 2013-02-08 | 2013-02-08 |
| 3:59.48  | Kidder, Brannon     | Penn State National Invitational        | 2013-01-25 | 2013-01-25 |
| 4:02.67  | Masters, Sam        | Penn State National Invitational        | 2013-01-25 | 2013-01-25 |
| 4:03.66  | Corkedale, Tyler    | Big Ten Men's & Women's Indoor Track &  | 2013-02-22 | 2013-02-22 |
| 4:04.44c | West, Ricky         | Bison Outdoor Classic                   | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 4:07.34  | Endress, Wade       | Penn State Sykes & Sabock Challenge Cup | 2012-02-04 | 2012-02-04 |
| 4:07.71c | Fischer, Matt       | Bison Outdoor Classic                   | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 4:08.04c | Loxsom, Casimir     | Crimson Tide Invitational               | 2013-04-06 | 2013-04-06 |
| 4:08.45c | Watkins, Za'Von     | Bison Outdoor Classic                   | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 4:09.11  | Scarpello, Nick     | Penn State National Invitational        | 2011-01-28 | 2011-01-28 |
| 4:11.85  | Campbell, Chris     | Penn State Nittany Lion Challenge       | 2012-01-14 | 2012-01-14 |
| 4:13.54c | Damiani, Tom        | LSU Battle on the Bayou                 | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 4:14.67  | Baker, Colin        | Penn State Sykes & Sabock Challenge Cup | 2013-02-02 | 2013-02-02 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

School: Princeton
800:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 1:48.26  | Dinkins, Russell    | NCAA Division I Championships           | 2013-06-08 | 2011-06-11 |
| 1:48.66  | Callahan, Peter     | Harvard-Yale-Princeton                  | 2011-02-12 | 2011-02-12 |
| 1:49.26  | Paternostro, Bradle | Larry Ellis Invitational                | 2013-04-17 | 2013-04-20 |
| 1:49.53  | Williams, Michael   | Ivy League Outdoor Track & Field Champi | 2013-05-05 | 2012-05-06 |
| 1:51.15  | Mathabane, Nathan   | George Mason Spring Invitational        | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 1:52.49  | Palmisano, Michael  | Princeton Elite Meet                    | 2010-05-01 | 2010-05-01 |
| 1:53.47  | Pugliese, David     | Larry Ellis Invitational                | 2013-04-17 | 2013-04-20 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

Mile:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 3:58.76  | Callahan, Peter     | UW Husky Classic                        | 2013-02-10 | 2012-02-11 |
| 4:02.97c | Williams, Michael   | Patriot Open Invitational               | 2012-04-14 | 2012-04-14 |
| 4:06.38  | Bendtsen, Chris     | Monmouth Season Opener                  | 2013-03-23 | 2012-03-24 |
| 4:06.56c | Palmisano, Michael  | IC4A/ECAC Outdoor Track & Field Champio | 2013-05-11 | 2012-05-13 |
| 4:06.61c | Paternostro, Bradle | Raleigh Relays                          | 2013-03-30 | 2012-03-31 |
| 4:07.34c | Mathabane, Nathan   | Princeton Larry Ellis Friday Night Race | 2010-04-16 | 2010-04-16 |
| 4:07.74  | Arroyo Yamin, Aleja | Monmouth Season Opener                  | 2013-03-23 | 2012-03-24 |
| 4:08.39  | Franklin, Michael   | 2013 Wesley A. Brown Invitational       | 2013-01-26 | 2013-01-26 |
| 4:09.77c | Martin, Connor      | Raleigh Relays                          | 2013-03-30 | 2012-03-31 |
| 4:10.01  | Udland, Tyler       | Monmouth Season Opener                  | 2013-03-23 | 2012-03-24 |
| 4:11.03  | Vitez, Jonathan     | Harvard-Yale-Princeton                  | 2012-02-11 | 2012-02-11 |
| 4:11.76c | Webb, James         | Princeton Sam Howell Friday Night Races | 2010-04-02 | 2010-04-02 |
| 4:12.64  | McDonald, Matt      | Monmouth Season Opener                  | 2013-03-23 | 2012-03-24 |
| 4:13.15c | Pugliese, David     | George Mason Spring Invitational        | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 4:14.87  | Owens, Eddie        | Monmouth Season Opener                  | 2013-03-23 | 2012-03-24 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

School: Columbia
800:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 1:48.14  | McFann, Harry       | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 1:48.64  | Fish, Brendon       | George Mason Spring Invitational        | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 1:48.72  | Claflin, Connor     | George Mason Spring Invitational        | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 1:51.36  | Miner, Sam          | Swarthmore Twilight Last Chance Meet    | 2011-05-14 | 2011-05-14 |
| 1:52.08  | Feigen, Mark        | Princeton Sam Howell Invitational       | 2012-04-06 | 2012-04-06 |
| 1:53.32  | Donley, Brendan     | Princeton Larry Ellis Invitational      | 2012-04-20 | 2012-04-20 |
| 1:53.36  | Woode, Denzel       | Larry Ellis Invitational                | 2013-04-17 | 2013-04-17 |
| 1:53.61  | Everett, Daniel     | Princeton Sam Howell Invitational       | 2012-04-06 | 2012-04-06 |
| 1:55.29  | Click, Taylor       | NYU Fastrack Team Challenge             | 2013-02-15 | 2013-02-15 |
| 1:55.35  | Jones, Byron        | Army 5-Way                              | 2012-04-14 | 2012-04-14 |
| 1:58.12  | Rodrigues, Ryan     | Yale - Dartmouth - Columbia             | 2013-01-20 | 2013-01-20 |
| 1:59.46  | Nestor, Daniel      | University of Pennsylvania Big 5 Meet   | 2012-03-24 | 2012-03-24 |
| 2:00.65  | Spencer, Leighton   | Villanova Outdoor Duals                 | 2010-03-27 | 2010-03-27 |
| 2:01.57  | Boyd, Kevin         | Monmouth Season Opener                  | 2013-03-29 | 2013-03-29 |
| 2:01.91  | Ross, Paul          | Army 5-Way                              | 2012-04-14 | 2012-04-14 |
| 2:05.48  | Eversole, Ben       | Army Quad Meet                          | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

Mile:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 4:00.65c | Everett, Daniel     | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 4:00.96c | Feigen, Mark        | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 4:02.20c | Gregorek, John      | Patriot Open Invitational               | 2012-04-14 | 2012-04-14 |
| 4:04.02c | Jones, Byron        | 2012 New Balance Boston Twilight Meet # | 2012-05-12 | 2012-05-12 |
| 4:07.41  | Composto, Nico      | Lafayette/Rider Winter Games            | 2012-02-10 | 2012-02-10 |
| 4:08.37c | Kotran, Joe         | George Mason Spring Invitational        | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 4:10.19c | Fish, Brendon       | Princeton Sam Howell Invitational       | 2012-04-06 | 2012-04-06 |
| 4:10.36  | Cousins, Tim        | NYC Armory Triangular                   | 2011-01-22 | 2011-01-22 |
| 4:12.11  | Claflin, Connor     | Yale - Dartmouth - Columbia             | 2013-01-20 | 2013-01-20 |
| 4:12.14c | Murphy, Mike        | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 4:12.55c | McFann, Harry       | Princeton Sam Howell Invitational       | 2012-04-06 | 2012-04-06 |
| 4:12.87  | Sienko, Jake        | Yale - Dartmouth - Columbia             | 2013-01-20 | 2013-01-20 |
| 4:13.70  | Nestor, Daniel      | 2013 Armory Collegiate Invitational     | 2013-02-01 | 2013-02-01 |
| 4:14.53  | Adams, Casey        | 2013 Armory Collegiate Invitational     | 2013-02-01 | 2013-02-01 |
| 4:15.35  | Ross, Paul          | NYRR College Night at the Armory II     | 2013-01-25 | 2013-01-25 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

School: Indiana
800:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 1:49.17  | Bayer, Andrew       | Texas Roadhouse Border Battle           | 2012-04-14 | 2012-04-14 |
| 1:49.52  | Roller, Lance       | Notre Dame Alex Wilson 2013             | 2013-03-01 | 2013-03-02 |
| 1:50.68  | Hunter, Rorey       | Notre Dame Meyo Invitational 2013       | 2013-02-01 | 2013-02-02 |
| 1:51.35  | Gornall, Jordan     | Notre Dame Alex Wilson 2013             | 2013-03-01 | 2013-03-02 |
| 1:52.84  | Nierman, Robby      | Polytan Invitational 2012               | 2012-04-21 | 2012-04-21 |
| 1:54.14  | Fife, Nolan         | 2012 Pepsi Florida Relays (College/Open | 2012-04-06 | 2012-04-07 |
| 1:54.27  | Mayhew, Zachary     | Texas Roadhouse Border Battle           | 2012-04-14 | 2012-04-14 |
| 1:54.41  | Smith, Brandon      | Hoosier Hills                           | 2013-02-08 | 2013-02-09 |
| 1:54.47  | Roche, Joshua       | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
| 1:54.82  | Esselink, Evan      | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

Mile:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 3:54.62c | Bayer, Andrew       | US Olympic Team Trials                  | 2012-06-21 | 2012-07-01 |
| 4:00.85  | Mayhew, Zachary     | Indiana University Relays               | 2013-01-25 | 2013-01-26 |
| 4:02.77  | Nierman, Robby      | Notre Dame Alex Wilson 2013             | 2013-03-01 | 2013-03-02 |
| 4:03.71c | Behnke, Adam        | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
| 4:03.99  | Fife, Nolan         | Notre Dame Meyo Invitational 2013       | 2013-02-01 | 2013-02-02 |
| 4:07.22  | Esselink, Evan      | Hoosier Hills                           | 2012-02-10 | 2012-02-11 |
| 4:07.68c | Schwartzer, Matthew | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
| 4:07.82c | Chandler, Mark      | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
| 4:07.86c | Roche, Joshua       | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
| 4:08.84  | Hunter, Rorey       | Gladstein Invitational                  | 2013-01-18 | 2013-01-19 |
| 4:09.77  | Skeete, Owen        | Notre Dame Meyo Invitational 2013       | 2013-02-01 | 2013-02-02 |
| 4:09.91  | Ricker, JR          | Gladstein Invitational                  | 2013-01-18 | 2013-01-19 |
| 4:09.96c | Crist, Jason        | 2013 Polytan Invitational               | 2013-04-20 | 2013-04-20 |
| 4:11.18c | Gornall, Jordan     | John Mitchell Alabama Relays            | 2013-03-22 | 2013-03-23 |
| 4:12.81  | Smith, Carl         | Hoosier Open                            | 2012-12-07 | 2012-12-08 |
| 4:13.32  | Roller, Lance       | Gladstein Invitational                  | 2013-01-18 | 2013-01-19 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

School: Villanova
800:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 1:47.62  | Ellison, Samuel     | NCAA Division I Championships           | 2012-06-06 | 2012-06-06 |
| 1:48.91  | Fitzsimons, Christo | Virginia Challenge                      | 2012-05-12 | 2012-05-12 |
| 1:50.03  | Solis, Dusty        | Miami Hurricane Alumni Invitational     | 2013-04-13 | 2013-04-13 |
| 1:51.75  | Tully, Alex         | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 1:52.39  | Golato, Andrew      | 2013 Widener Invitational               | 2013-04-19 | 2013-04-19 |
| 1:53.68  | O'Connell, Phillip  | 2012 Outdoor  Haverford Widener Dual Mi | 2012-04-24 | 2012-04-24 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+

Mile:


+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| mark     | athlete             | meet                                    | begin_date | end_date   |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+
| 3:54.08c | Williamsz, Jordan   | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 3:54.15c | McEntee, Sam        | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
| 3:59.39  | Denault, Robert     | Notre Dame Alex Wilson 2013             | 2013-03-01 | 2013-03-01 |
| 4:06.27c | Tully, Alex         | Virginia Challenge                      | 2012-05-12 | 2012-05-12 |
| 4:07.03  | Solis, Dusty        | 2013 Armory Collegiate Invitational     | 2013-02-01 | 2013-02-01 |
| 4:10.20c | Fitzsimons, Christo | 2012 Widener Invitational               | 2012-04-20 | 2012-04-20 |
| 4:10.88c | O'Sullivan, Christo | 2013 Widener Invitational               | 2013-04-19 | 2013-04-19 |
| 4:13.14  | Harris, Danny       | BIG EAST Indoor Track & Field Champions | 2012-02-18 | 2012-02-18 |
| 4:14.01  | Bates, Charles      | UAlbany Great Dane Classic              | 2013-01-18 | 2013-01-18 |
| 4:14.11  | Pietrocarlo, Chris  | Penn State National Invitational        | 2012-01-27 | 2012-01-27 |
| 4:14.50c | Basili, Brian       | Swarthmore College Last Chance Meet     | 2012-05-14 | 2012-05-14 |
+----------+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+------------+


#2

well since I do not think Oregon was clearly the best in any event by any stretch, why would I do that?

I HEARD on another thread and asked about Johnson, It would be hard for me t believe the red shirt note I read

I doubt they will load guys up three times, it could really set someone back, who is not ready or able

Like, I highly Doubt Mac Fleet will triple

BUT there is room here with a 4 hour window between 4 x mile and 4 x 8

4 x 8 becomes a free roll is meet went well for you, and I am not sure, I could look it uo but that seens about an hour plus longer rest than other years? I could easily be wrong

I doubt PSU will load 4 x mile, they will run that without Kidder or Creese or both I would think and try to take 4 x 8, maybe they run 1 and take a solid shot, Corkdale and Masters are both solid at this point, without another slam the door guy It would be hard for me to see any line up woth 1 sub 4 guy vs one with three winning

I do not think they will run sprint med, with No Brady Gehret


#3

Elkaim is racing Penn, I’ve been saying it all week.


#4

Are you on Oregon staff, and where has that been said?

He is listed not once but twice in Jordan entries, under what authority would you know?:smiley:


#5

Well, his Twitter has him talking about how excited he is to be heading to Philadelphia, so that’s probably a pretty good hint.


#6

refer to next comment

yes, he was talking about it on twitter and facebook all week leading up to the race.


#7

I watched most of Penn with a former Oregon runner and current Nike guy.

We talked a lot about the mindset of the team, and their plans for the rest of the season.

Basically, they view Penn as a “have-fun” meet - a chance to travel to a place they never come to, and run a race or two.

The Coach Andy Powell seemed to echo those comments:

"Powell likened the Penn Relays to an all-star game, and his mile team agreed.

‘It’s a midseason break, there’s good competition, a lot of fun, and there are championship meets coming up,” he said. “There’s a long way to go.’"

http://www.registerguard.com/rg/sports/29787551-81/oregon-ran-relay-leg-relays.html.csp

It’s a big time departure for many of us on the East Coast (teams included) who view running (and winning) Penn to be one of the major goals for the season.

Maybe it’s because it is such a large stage here - not only for history, but for publicity and recruiting - that schools here take it more seriously than an “All-Star game.”


#8

after participating in the meet once i would assume any returning runners would look at the meet very differently. maybe the usa vs the world people view it as an all star meet(which it is to them) but i would think just about all high school and college runners think it is a very, very important meet regardless of where it falls in the season.
these comments by the oregon staff are very surprising. maybe that’s why they didn’t anchor fleet in the dmr.


#9

For “just a fun meet” they spend an awful lot of money getting a good number of athletes to Philly. When I talked to Jeremy on Friday he seemed pretty serious about them running fast.

BTW, the speculation about not running Mac on DMR anchor? If they did that who was going to run the 1200? No way Jeremy is running 2:51 or 2:52. Fleet and Elkhaim have virtually the same mile PR although it is true that Mac is 2 seconds faster than Jeremy at 1500.


#10

They do not have the same MIle Prs. Fleets is 2+ seconds fast and is prbabaly 4 seconds faster at 800

Greer could have easily run the 1200 and anyone of a myriad the 800 , they did not get separation anyway, so why waste Fleet on the 12, it accomplished very little


#11

Sorry, should have said season best. His PR is 3:57.70 from back in 2010. Since then its been season bests of 3:59.88, 3:59.03 and 3:58.90. Not a ton different from Elkaim’s 3:59.18 this year (indoors). Given Jeremy’s 5000 times this year and last they may have wanted to see what he could do at a mile (1600) I don’t know.

The next best 800 PR on the team after Greer and Fleet is 1:49.65, almost 3.5 seconds slower than Greer.


#12

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that they don’t take the meet “seriously” in terms of trying to win, or that their athletes are loafing it.

Rather, they aren’t going to triple guys to do so, and they aren’t going to run teams to score the maximum as zen had suggested in his original post in the tread. The “imagine you are a distance coach” part is the sort of mindset that the east coast teams have, while Oregon put out teams that had a shot to win, even though it wasnt their best teams on paper.

They key guy oregons plans is guyota. He’s run 1:47.x from the gun as well as the low 4:00s. If you have him available, your DMR could be run Greer, berry, guyota, fleet. Or maybe guyota on the leadoff.

Knowing how they approached it, it seemed that they wanted to run guys twice, no more, and wanted to minimize the number of guys running only once - maximizing their money in bringing people out.


#13

Elkhaim told me that the decision to bring him east was a last minute one. Maybe that had to do with Guyota not being available.


#14

I do not know, but probably more so that Elkaim is an East Coast guy first Penn in college and capable, plus he had run the 3:42.xx 1500 recently , a logical fit to their 4 x mile, but not as their DMR anchor, I still do not see that under any plan outlined so far, only if they figured a working lead of plus 3 or 4 secs, but when he backed it up to 2:01.5 that was not going to happen

Elkaim is much better at the mile at this point than I thought he would be and getting consistent 4:01.5 1600 4:03.5 about the same in totally different circumstances than set up follow the leader like his PRs prior

His upside is huge