Payton Jordan 5000


#1

Men 5000 Meter Run Section 1
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Seed Bib# Name                             Affiliation
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  1  318 Sam Chelanga                      OTC                                
  2  274 Chris Solinsky                    nike                               
  3  275 Alan Webb                         nike                               
  4  487 Arne Gabius                       Unattached                         
  5  502 Zane Robertson                    Unattached                         
  6  194 Bobby Curtis                      Hansons-Broo                       
  7  181 Leonard Korir                     Global Sport                       
  8  279 Chris Derrick                     Nike/Aurum                         
  9  351 Ben True                          Saucony                            
 10  510 Paul Chelimo                      Unc-Greensbo                       
 11  272 Evan Jager                        Nike                               
 12  271 Dan Huling                        Nike                               
 13  534 Maverick Darling                  Wisconsin                          
 14  292 Eric Jenkins                      Northeastern                       
 15  350 Jeff See                          Saucony                            
 16  294 Diego Estrada                     Northern Ari                       
 17  353 Garrett Heath                     Saucony/Auru                       
 18  320 Hassan Mead                       OTC                                
 19  508 Aldo Vega                         Unattached                         
 20  153 Byron Piedra                      Ecuador                            
 21  493 David McCarthy                    Unattached                         
 22  473 George-Byron Alex                 Unattached                         
 23  127 José Mauricio González            Colombia                           
 24  224 Brett Robinson                    Melbourne Tr                       
 25  310 Parker Stinson                    Oregon

Comments: Star studded field. Everyone involved deserves to be here with comeback attempts by Alan Webb and Chris Solinsky (who may not finish). The names that I believe could win are Sam Chelanga, Chris Derrick, Evan Jager and Ben True with Hassan Mead having an outside shot. True, Jager and Mead are due for a big 5000 times. Maverick Darling should be the top collegian in a mid 13:20. Northeastern’s Eric Jenkins doesn’t have the times to indicate a 13:30 caliber but you have to believe he has it in him.

Predicted wining time: 13:06.5


Men 5000 Meter Run Section 2
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Seed Bib# Name                             Affiliation
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  1 118 Tom Humphries                      Cannock & Stafford                       
  2 28  Nouredine Smail                    Adp/Sharkies                       
  3 213 Mitch Goose                        Iona                               
  4 505 Joe Stilin                         Unattached                         
  5 263 Luke Caldwell                      New Mexico                         
  6 495 Kenyon Neuman                      Unattached                         
  7 543 Michael Crouch                     Zap Fitness                        
  8 171 Breandan O'Neill                   Florida State                               
  9 107 Collin Jarvis                      California                         
 10 78  Jordan Horn                        Brooks Beast                       
 11 59  matthew tebo                       Boulder Trac                       
 12 134 Richard Medina                     Colorado                           
 13 287 Andrew Colley                      North Carolina                       
 14 500 Sandy Roberts                      Unattached                         
 15 412 Erik Olson                         Stanford                           
 16 428 Jonathan Peterson                  Team Usa                           
 17 276 Malcolm Hicks                      Nike New                           
 18 240 John Simons                        Minnesota                          
 19 76  Matthew Elliott                    Brooks                             
 20 135 Ammar Moussa                       Colorado                           
 21 61  Jordan Welling                     Bowerman AC  

Comments: I am very surprsed that Milwaukee native Joe Stilin, formerly of Texas and Princeton, did not make the fast heat with a 13:38 under his belt. Along with Stilin Nouredine Smail of France and Tom Humphries of Great Britain stick out as other names for the potential win. Watch out for John Simons of the University of Minnesota who will be much better known as a 5000m runner than a 1500m/mile type before his career is over.

Predicted wining time: 13:35.5


Men 5000 Meter Run Section 3
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Seed Bib# Name                            Affiliation
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  1 478 Mitchel Brown                     Unattached                         
  2 496 Craig Nowak                       Unattached                         
  3 38  Phillip Reid                      Asics Aggie                        
  4 489 Neilson Hall                      Unattached                         
  5 236 Jesus Armando Torres Barron       Mexico-FMAA                        
  6 415 Jim Rosa                          Stanford                           
  7 511 Paul Katam                        Unc-Greensbo                       
  8 555 Jameson Mora                      Unattached                         
  9 416 Joe Rosa                          Stanford                           
 10 128 Jeferson Pena                     Colombia                           
 11 188 Andrew Nixon                      Guelph                             
 12 23  Andrew Benford                    adidas/Rogue                       
 13 220 Weston Strum                      Loyola Marym                       
 14 498 Ahmed Osman                       Unattached                         
 15 266 Patrick Zacharias                 New Mexico                         
 16 296 Michael Brajdic                   Ohio State                         
 17 488 Thomas Graham                     Unattached                         
 18 210 Barry Britt                       Idaho                              
 19 239 Andrew Larsen                     Minnesota                          
 20 521 Stephane Colle                    Vandal Track                       
 21 290 Michael Mansy                     North Caroli                       
 22 506 Garrett Sweatt                    Unattached                         
 23 124 Martin Perez                      Club Rodolfo                       
 24 109 Leland Later                      California                         

Comments: This race will be wide open. Phillip Reid comes in with the top lifetime best of 13:39.67 which he ran at this same meet in 2011. Interested to see how the Rosa twins and Mitchell Brown of Australia fare.

Predicted wining time: 13:48.5


#2

Mitch Goose FTW in heat 2


#3

Beg to differ about Jenkins; the guy ran 7:46i. I’m not saying that’s a definite indicator, but that says that a sub 13:30 isn’t totally out of the question.

And, via Flotrack, Derrick is the rabbit for the 5km.


#4

Yea, gonna have to second Jenkins being a 13:30 guy. 7:46 is somewhere around a 13:25.


#5

Well that certainly lived up to the hype.

Record Timing FHT Results:
RecordTiming.com - Contractor License 4/28/2013 - 9:10 PM

          Payton Jordan Cardinal Invitational

      Stanford University --Stanford, California

Event 18 Men 5000 Meter Run Section 1

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Name                    Year School                  Finals

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Finals

1 Ben True Saucony 13:14.44

2 Evan Jager Nike 13:14.60

3 Diego Estrada Northern Arizona 13:15.33

4 Leonard Korir Global Sport 13:15.45

5 Hassan Mead Otc 13:15.50

6 Dan Huling Nike 13:18.42

7 Eric Jenkins Northeastern 13:18.57

8 Garrett Heath Saucony/Aurum 13:20.01

9 Sam Chelanga Otc 13:20.07

10 Zane Robertson Unattached 13:21.15

11 Chris Solinsky Nike 13:23.62

12 Brett Robinson Melbourne Tr 13:26.35

13 Jeff See Saucony 13:29.08

14 George-Byron Alex Unattached 13:29.55

15 Luke Caldwell New Mexico 13:29.94

16 Maverick Darling Wisconsin 13:30.40

17 Parker Stinson Oregon 13:31.70

18 Bobby Curtis Hansons-Brooks Odp 13:32.57

19 Paul Chelimo Unc-Greensboro 13:36.27

20 Byron Piedra Ecuador 13:37.60

21 Alan Webb Nike 13:37.68

22 Aldo Vega Unattached 13:41.73

23 José Mauricio González G Colombia 13:53.55

24 David McCarthy Unattached 13:56.80

– Alex Hatz Wisconsin DNF

– Arne Gabius Unattached DNF

– Chris Derrick Nike/Aurum DNF

FHT


#6

1 Ben True Saucony 13:14.44
2 Evan Jager Nike 13:14.60
3 Diego Estrada Northern Arizona 13:15.33
4 Leonard Korir Global Sport 13:15.45
5 Hassan Mead Otc 13:15.50
6 Dan Huling Nike 13:18.42
7 Eric Jenkins Northeastern 13:18.57
8 Garrett Heath Saucony/Aurum 13:20.01
9 Sam Chelanga Otc 13:20.07
10 Zane Robertson Unattached 13:21.15
11 Chris Solinsky Nike 13:23.62
12 Brett Robinson Melbourne Tr 13:26.35
13 Jeff See Saucony 13:29.08
14 George-Byron Alex Unattached 13:29.55
15 Luke Caldwell New Mexico 13:29.94
16 Maverick Darling Wisconsin 13:30.40
17 Parker Stinson Oregon 13:31.70
18 Bobby Curtis Hansons-Brooks Odp 13:32.57
19 Paul Chelimo Unc-Greensboro 13:36.27
20 Byron Piedra Ecuador 13:37.60
21 Alan Webb Nike 13:37.68
22 Aldo Vega Unattached 13:41.73
23 José Mauricio González G Colombia 13:53.55
24 David McCarthy Unattached 13:56.80
– Alex Hatz Wisconsin DNF
– Arne Gabius Unattached DNF
– Chris Derrick Nike/Aurum DNF

true and jager get the A standard, estrada korir and mead come heart breakingly close. Solinsky with a VERY solid 1323 and webb with a 1337 that i think was right about where most people thought he would be. Jenkins also with a BOMB to get down to 1318. Disappointing run for curtis i would imagine.


#7

Dream year for True thus far.
Nice PR for Jager.
Estrada??? Wow.
Mead??? Same as Estrada.
Huling at 13:18. Sheeeeeeeesh.
Jenkins at 13:18: V.A.L.I.D.A.T.I.O.N. He is Free.
Incredibly impressive result for Solinsky.
Sam Chelanga. Oh well.
Solid for See.
Icky for Curtis.
Webb … I really thought 13:20 something was feasible. Can’t say this is particularly promising but it’s not a nightmare. More of one of those dreams where you are trying to run fast but just can’t get past running in quick sand.


#8

Any word on the Derrick DNF?

EDIT: The thought just occurred to me that he could have been pacing; he was a late entry if I remember correctly. Looking for video confirmation, that would be the most fun way to find out.


#9

Derrick was the main rabbit. Source: every thread on this meet here or on letsrun, plus I was at the meet and saw it.


#10

as stated, he was the rabbit. Huling did the rabbiting duties for the indoor mark and today it was derrick’s turn.


#11

I would wait one more on Curtis, he has not raced anything I don’t think in about 7 months? Maybe a road race? Not sure.

Plus a training change

I would not compare anyone to where TRue is, he has done some clear work to be this sharp this early, he was great at World Cross, then a 1500 in 3:40.xx

Jager ran Indoors as did others, even Siolinsky ran a cpouple of efforts


#12

Curtis ran several Cross Country races in the States and lead the US team at the Great Edinburgh XC meet. If I remeber correctly he was also top 20 at world cross just ahead of Ryan Vail.


#13

Also Estrada’s time doesn’t surprise me at all. His last WoW on Flotrack was super impressive. He also had a great indoor season after starting late due to injury and depression from the olympics I guess? Saw that in an interview where he stated outdoors was the goal because he wouldn’t have enough time to get ready to compete at indoor NCAA. Pretty sure he ran 13:3X indoors plus consistant training, he could probably go faster unless he is focusing on the 10 again…


#14

RE: Webb…

I predicted Webb to open at 13:40, so he slightly exceeded my expectations. One of my (serious) predictions on my prediction thread was that Webb would post his best performance since 2007, most likely a 13:20-ish 5,000. If someone is (1) going to top out at 13:20-ish, (2) hasn’t raced for about a year, (3) has changed coaches and moved across the country, (4) is changing events and (5) has been very inconsistent due to injuries the last several years, I’d expect that person to open up about 13:40-ish, which is why I predicted what I predicted. He came in a hair under that, so I actually consider this a pretty good starting place for Webb.

My spidey senses tell me that Webb can return to relevance (though maybe not quite this year) but never dominance again. If you’re a 13:20 guy in June, you’ll probably make the finals at Nats, and that makes you relevant on the national scene in my book. Based on the interview I posted, I really think the guy has matured and is wiser now. Those things don’t change the fact that he’s lost a tremendous amount of ground in the last five years that he won’t make up in a single season, but they do mean he’s capable of reversing the recent trend and actually making some progress.

A 13:20-13:25 SB would make this season a success in my book, and 13:37 is a completely acceptable start to a season that would top out in that range. Of course, all of this is contingent upon him actually staying healthy for a full season.

RE: The other guys…

True is on fire right now. Great to see the breakthrough.

Jager - looks like he’s picking up right where he left off last year. Eager to see him steeple.

Solinsky - very nice opener. I could see him hitting 13:10 or maybe even just a smidge faster, which would be very solid after how much he lost the last two years.

Jenkins - WTH???

See - seems like a fairly good opener for him; what’s his 5,000 PR? Was this it?

Curtis - I really wish I knew what was going on with him. He just seems like he’s all over the board.


#15

Pretty sure you’re thinking of Bobby Mack. I’m almost 100% positive Curtis did not run World XC.

I could see this going one of two ways for Curtis.

  1. Curtis has had a bad history of peaking at Caridnal, and he himself has stated this. I’d bet that he’s still in the middle of a heavy workload and that he’s looking to train through all this so he’s actually prepared for USAs for once. The only problem is that this was probably his best chance to get his standards. So now he’s either got to squeeze in a 10km (probably his better event) somewhere, or hop into one of the many bigger 5km between now and USAs (unless there is standard chasing this year. Anyone know about this?).

  2. He’s just still in a quagmire of uncertainty and this is just another odd data point.

I’m leaning towards #1, as the Hansons tend to have a pretty good history of producing consistent, solid work.

And I think this is a very good result for Solinsky. Like Zat said, considering how much time he lost and the severity of his injury, this is promising. But going from 13:20 down to national contender again is a long road.


#16

Huling closed pretty well apparently, looked like he was dropping off that main pack with a couple laps to go. nice kick by Estrada, didn’t think he’d catch those guys

they interviewed Jenkins afterwards and he sounded disappointed (???). Said he felt good til about 1200 to go and then died because he “didn’t have it today.” Maybe I’m reading too much into his exact wording but if he actually isn’t happy with this race…


#17

He ran a very good time, but it doesn’t mean he has to be wholly satisfied with it. Sometimes it can be a little disappointing to know you didn’t run your best, even if the end result is still a PB.


#18

Video:
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[FLOTRACK]http://www.flotrack.org/embed/MTM2NzA3ODE0?related=1&autoplay=false[/FLOTRACK]