NXN NE Teams


#1

Just wondering which NE (not NY) teams might be in the running for NXN…

From Mass., we have…

  1. Lincoln-Sudbury
  2. Franklin
  3. Bishop Feehan
  4. Wellesley
  5. Weymouth

Who from the rest of NE, PA, and NJ are in that group?


#2

These girls have speed rating from track of:

138 (10:54 2M) 11th
117 (11:32 2M) 9th
117 (5:18 Mile) 10th
102 (5:30 Mile) 9th
100 (5:32 Mile) 10th

Does this typically translate to an NXN bubble team, based off of track times? I asked this on dyestat, but the site died.


#3

that looks like a very good northeast team if the track performances translate well to the xc course

2nd place at regionals last year was 128, 119, 116, 111, 108


#4

Originally posted by chrisdiaz16@Jun 21 2010, 12:59 AM
[b] that looks like a very good northeast team if the track performances translate well to the xc course

2nd place at regionals last year was 128, 119, 116, 111, 108 [/b]

Which team are the speed ratings for, and who are the girls matched up with the times?

It would also be helpful to have some 5K times in there from the state or divisional meet last year to gage improvement in track, as well as the type of xc runners the girls are.

(ie: NY last year Megan Patrignelli ran a 4:25 ftw at the outdoor track state meet, but never ran close to that speedrating conversion in XC. Another example, madison carr from saratoga has few track results, most of them relatively unimpressive, while she has run 130 SR at bowdoin in both her years on varsity.)

EDIT: Using Meylan’s chart a 5:18 1 mile is a 114 speedrating 5:30 is 98 and 5:32 is 95


#5

Originally posted by xc_runnah12+Jun 23 2010, 04:19 PMQUOTE (xc_runnah12 @ Jun 23 2010, 04:19 PM) <!–QuoteBegin-chrisdiaz16@Jun 21 2010, 12:59 AM
[b] that looks like a very good northeast team if the track performances translate well to the xc course

2nd place at regionals last year was 128, 119, 116, 111, 108 [/b]

Which team are the speed ratings for, and who are the girls matched up with the times?

It would also be helpful to have some 5K times in there from the state or divisional meet last year to gage improvement in track, as well as the type of xc runners the girls are.

(ie: NY last year Megan Patrignelli ran a 4:25 ftw at the outdoor track state meet, but never ran close to that speedrating conversion in XC. Another example, madison carr from saratoga has few track results, most of them relatively unimpressive, while she has run 130 SR at bowdoin in both her years on varsity.)

EDIT: Using Meylan’s chart a 5:18 1 mile is a 114 speedrating 5:30 is 98 and 5:32 is 95 [/b][/quote]
Well, 5K best times are:

  1. N/A- first XC season (10:54 2M)
  2. 19:12
  3. 19:38
  4. 20:04
  5. N/A- first XC season (5:30 1M)

#2-4 ran state meet in a monsoon (12" puddles), so those times are form earlier in the fall last season.


#6

Originally posted by mcrun33+Jun 24 2010, 07:32 PMQUOTE (mcrun33 @ Jun 24 2010, 07:32 PM) [quote]Originally posted by xc_runnah12@Jun 23 2010, 04:19 PM
[b] <!–QuoteBegin-chrisdiaz16
@Jun 21 2010, 12:59 AM
[b] that looks like a very good northeast team if the track performances translate well to the xc course

2nd place at regionals last year was 128, 119, 116, 111, 108 [/b]

Which team are the speed ratings for, and who are the girls matched up with the times?

It would also be helpful to have some 5K times in there from the state or divisional meet last year to gage improvement in track, as well as the type of xc runners the girls are.

(ie: NY last year Megan Patrignelli ran a 4:25 ftw at the outdoor track state meet, but never ran close to that speedrating conversion in XC. Another example, madison carr from saratoga has few track results, most of them relatively unimpressive, while she has run 130 SR at bowdoin in both her years on varsity.)

EDIT: Using Meylan’s chart a 5:18 1 mile is a 114 speedrating 5:30 is 98 and 5:32 is 95 [/b][/quote]
Well, 5K best times are:

  1. N/A- first XC season (10:54 2M)
  2. 19:12
  3. 19:38
  4. 20:04
  5. N/A- first XC season (5:30 1M)

#2-4 ran state meet in a monsoon (12" puddles), so those times are form earlier in the fall last season. [/b][/quote]
Were the number 2-4 5K times from Bowdoin Park or another XC course (if so which course).

Regardless looks like at least a bubble team for NE as long as the 10:54 girl can translate to XC, and the 5:30 girl can be a strong enough fifth.


#7

Originally posted by xc_runnah12+Jun 23 2010, 04:19 PMQUOTE (xc_runnah12 @ Jun 23 2010, 04:19 PM) <!–QuoteBegin-chrisdiaz16@Jun 21 2010, 12:59 AM
[b] that looks like a very good northeast team if the track performances translate well to the xc course

2nd place at regionals last year was 128, 119, 116, 111, 108 [/b]

Which team are the speed ratings for, and who are the girls matched up with the times?

It would also be helpful to have some 5K times in there from the state or divisional meet last year to gage improvement in track, as well as the type of xc runners the girls are.

(ie: NY last year Megan Patrignelli ran a 4:25 ftw at the outdoor track state meet, but never ran close to that speedrating conversion in XC. Another example, madison carr from saratoga has few track results, most of them relatively unimpressive, while she has run 130 SR at bowdoin in both her years on varsity.)

EDIT: Using Meylan’s chart a 5:18 1 mile is a 114 speedrating 5:30 is 98 and 5:32 is 95 [/b][/quote]
Full miles in Mass, not 1600m. 5:18y is 5:16.5 for 1600m, which is between 116 and 117 on Meylan’s chart.


#8

Originally posted by disgruntled+Jun 30 2010, 08:27 AMQUOTE (disgruntled @ Jun 30 2010, 08:27 AM) [quote]Originally posted by xc_runnah12@Jun 23 2010, 04:19 PM
[b] <!–QuoteBegin-chrisdiaz16
@Jun 21 2010, 12:59 AM
[b] that looks like a very good northeast team if the track performances translate well to the xc course

2nd place at regionals last year was 128, 119, 116, 111, 108 [/b]

Which team are the speed ratings for, and who are the girls matched up with the times?

It would also be helpful to have some 5K times in there from the state or divisional meet last year to gage improvement in track, as well as the type of xc runners the girls are.

(ie: NY last year Megan Patrignelli ran a 4:25 ftw at the outdoor track state meet, but never ran close to that speedrating conversion in XC. Another example, madison carr from saratoga has few track results, most of them relatively unimpressive, while she has run 130 SR at bowdoin in both her years on varsity.)

EDIT: Using Meylan’s chart a 5:18 1 mile is a 114 speedrating 5:30 is 98 and 5:32 is 95 [/b][/quote]
Full miles in Mass, not 1600m. 5:18y is 5:16.5 for 1600m, which is between 116 and 117 on Meylan’s chart. [/b][/quote]
Didn’t realize it was for sure an MA team – question of which NE team we were discussing was never answered.

In any case, does anyone have info on NE teams that are looking strong?


#9

Another strong Mass. team is Lincoln-Sudbury (5K bests from 09’ XC)…

Andrea Keklak 18:08
Corey Stock 18:12
Meghan Broecker 19:03
Leah Potter 19:46
Meghan Griffin 19:58
Marika Crowe 20:07
Emily Knaul 20:33
Kathryn Coletti 20:41

These times are from Brown… a FAST course but fairly early in the season (October). Didn’t get it done last year at NXN regionals, but they’ll be hungry this time around.


#10

Who are the top 5 teams from each Northeast state for the girls…

I’d say in Mass. its (maybe out of order):

  1. LS
  2. Franklin
  3. Bishop Feehan
  4. Wellesley
  5. Weymouth

What about NJ? PA? CT? RI? NH? ME? VT?

How do these teams stack up to one another?


#11

Based on kids that raced in 2009, these two definitely belong in the discussion.

Hamilton-Wenham (2nd to Feehan in D2 All-State)
(Grade is the one they’ll be in 2010)
Lanois SR 19:36
Senning JR 20:28
Phelan JR 21:24
Duffy SO 21:34
Goodrich SO 21:38

Wachusett (4th in D1, just behind Franklin)

Williamson JR 20:12
Carlson SR 20:21
Collins SO 20:30* (DNR All-State, finished between Carlson and Skodis at CMass, hence the arbitrary time)
Skodis JR 20:55
Eska JR 23:45


#12

Wachusett should be even better too, as rumor has it that they are picking up an excellent freshman. That 23:45 (even at the Mountain) would make it hard to compete against teams that will be scoring closer to 21:00-30 or better for 5th. HW is very intriguing as well. I don’t think they get enough credit because Feehan overshadows them, but they are an NXN contender now.


#13

it’s not even august, and to say that HW, a team labeled “intriguing” by you, is a contender for NXN (nationals??) is just ridiculous. it’s girl’s cross country we’re talking about. anything can happen in 4 months


#14

Why are you on this thread then? This is all pure speculation.


#15

I would look up the definition of a contender if I were you. Someone who COULD do something in the future. I didn’t call them a favorite or a front-runner, just a contender. Returning 5 girls between 19:30 and 21:30 at Northfield could give them a group that goes 18:30, 19:45, 20:00, 20:20, 20:25 or better, and that my friend, puts you in contention for a top 2 spot in the region.

Also, I didnt put HW up for contention, someone else did, and I simply agreed that they were a contender. I don’t think they’ll get there, but they’re at least a top tier team. They bring back essentially the same team that placed 2nd at Northfield to BF by only 25 points (minus Ashley, but w/ 6th and 7th right there) and Feehan won the region last year. So, while I know your last point was in contenion to mine, I’ll agree with it. Anything can happen. And HW can make NXN. Not saying they will, but they can.


#16

I believe Collins did race the all state meet, and DNFed.

Additionally, I think it is a little far fetched to say that HW is even a contender for NXN nationals at this point in time. Although it is all about speculation, looking back at the qualifiers from the past few years for nationals, they were all much higher caliber teams then what HW returns – of course anything can happen but I would bet there are much stronger teams in the northeast region this year.


#17

For NH (Based on returning runners & best 5k times from '09 XC):

Central High School
Conway, Alexandra SR Manchester Central 18:00.3
Conway, Elizabeth SO Manchester Central 18:42.4
Donovan, Meggie SR Manchester Central 19:34.4
Marshall, Hannah SR Manchester Central 20:16
Brockett, Megan SO Manchester Central 20:33.6

Bishop Guertin High School
Moriarty, Hannah SR Bishop Guertin 19:07.8
Enos, Morgan SR Bishop Guertin 19:36.2
Burke, Sarah SO Bishop Guertin 19:54.8
Veilleux, Shannon SO Bishop Guertin 20:35.5

Keene High School
Maleski, Chloe SR Keene 18:28
Klaski, Rachel SO Keene 19:04.7
Fay, Anna JR Keene 19:25.5
Boden, Brie JR Keene 19:42.5
Hadden, Elizabeth JR Keene 20:54.3

2009 NHIAA Class L XC Championships
1 Manchester Central 65 1 4 9 21 30 42 85
Total Time: 1:37:31.00
Average: 19:30.20
2 Keene 67 2 5 8 18 34 35 40
Total Time: 1:37:49.00
Average: 19:33.80
3 Bishop Guertin 70 7 11 13 16 23 24 29
Total Time: 1:39:10.00
Average: 19:50.00


#18

Different races but same course. Anyone know how fast or slow Burrillville Middle School - Burrillville RI is? Ran at the RI INJURY FUND INVITATIONAL

2 Fraielli, Zachary SR La Salle Academy 16:16.88 2
3 Walsh, Ryan SR La Salle Academy 16:29.60 3
6 O’Neill, Timothy SR La Salle Academy 16:56.02 6
7 Phayre, Sean SR La Salle Academy 16:56.23 7
11 Rego, Adam SO La Salle Academy 17:22.53 11
12 Sciolto, Christopher SR La Salle Academy 17:46.66 12

1 Meehan, Ryan SR BishopHendricken 16:28.57 1
3 Andraka, Andrew SR BishopHendricken 16:33.00 3
5 Marino, Ben SR BishopHendricken 16:42.86 5
7 Vuono, Mark JR BishopHendricken 16:48.69 7
8 Doherty, Alex SO BishopHendricken 16:50.51 8
9 Manning, Drew SR BishopHendricken 16:53.97 9


#19

Hendricken boys will contend…


#20

what about boy’s teams?